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Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt
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| readeralexey | Дата: Суббота, 02.03.2024, 12:44 | Сообщение # 1 |
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| When you are slandered, and therefore grow disturbed and sick at heart, it shows that pride is in you, and that it must be wounded and driven out by outward dishonour. Therefore do not be irritated by derision, and do not bear malice against those who hate you and slander you, but love them as your physicians, whom God has sent you to instruct you and to teach you humility, and pray to God for them.
Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt
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| tsvioletta17 | Дата: Понедельник, 04.03.2024, 10:47 | Сообщение # 2 |
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| I have never been intimidated by ridicule. Yes, like many people I have pride, but I have almost never taken offence at people misunderstanding me or mocking me in any way.
As everyone knows, children can be stupid and cruel if they are not brought up properly. I always had a lot of mates and friends at school, I socialised with everyone. But there were kids who wanted to bully me, especially about religion. I have different stories about this, but I remember a particular one for some reason.
I was about 11 or maybe 12 years old, I had a magnet bookmark for my textbook, and it had prayers on both sides. My classmate saw the bookmark and chuckled snarkily: "Do you pray in the morning and evening?" I was not the least bit embarrassed by this question and chuckle, and I answered briefly and clearly, calmly and seriously, looking him straight in the eyes: "Yes, I do, so what?". He changed his face, and my embarrassment never touched me. From then on, he never asked such mocking questions again.
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Сообщение отредактировал tsvioletta17 - Понедельник, 04.03.2024, 10:47 |
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| marichernaya911 | Дата: Понедельник, 04.03.2024, 14:11 | Сообщение # 3 |
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| Christ teaches us: "Blessed are ye when men shall revile you, and persecute you,and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for My sake" (Math. 5:11). For that we are promised to inherit Heavenly Kingdom.
As rightly saint John of Kronstadt rightly says, we are prideful, when such kind of slander hurts us, and then we cannot inherit Kingdom of God. The main goal of our Christian life is to gain such traits of character and cleanse our heart the way that we could be able to bear these Beatitudes, and then become heirs of Heavenly Kingdom. And there's no other way there but that of sorrow and grief and injustice of this world, as Christ Himself suffered all that, and by His suffering showed us the way of salvation. That is what is meant by the words of Holy Fathers that our main aim as Christians is to be like Christ.
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Сообщение отредактировал readeralexey - Вторник, 30.04.2024, 18:33 |
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| yarovaya02 | Дата: Вторник, 05.03.2024, 09:09 | Сообщение # 4 |
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| “Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.” (Matthew 11:29)
Christ reveals an example of humility and meekness. Look at His birth in a manger, at His deeds: blessing children, washing the legs is feet of the disciples and at last being mocked and crucified. Our God Jesus Christ suffered and was despised by others. Likewise we should endure others’ misunderstanding and vilification - in the name of Christ:
“ If the world hate you, ye know that it hated me before it hated you.” (John 15:18)
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Сообщение отредактировал readeralexey - Вторник, 30.04.2024, 18:35 |
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| veronikachernykh15 | Дата: Четверг, 07.03.2024, 17:43 | Сообщение # 5 |
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| Of course, from the point of view of salvation of the soul, the words of John of Kronstadt are correct. We should be grateful to evil people because they give us lessons in humility. But I sincerely do not know how to tolerate slander. Moreover, we have Beatitudes, which say: "Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for truth, and they will be satisfied."
Therefore, it seems to me that this is a very delicate issue in which slander can concern only yourself directly, and where slander concerns other people as well. So, I guess it is for me to confuse cowardice with meekness.
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| ulyana_kazakova | Дата: Вторник, 16.04.2024, 11:05 | Сообщение # 6 |
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| These are wonderful words! I think it is important to remember this, because the mocking and judgement of others gives us the opportunity to be humble. It is certainly much easier to be offended by bad words or to say something bad in response, but we should listen to the words of Righteous John and instead of being offended and angry, we should take everything as an opportunity to improve and change something in ourselves.
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| amasaltseva | Дата: Четверг, 25.04.2024, 00:11 | Сообщение # 7 |
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| It seems it’s an extremely difficult, almost unbearable task not to get offended or, at least, distressed when being slandered. As well as irritation, malice or sorrow as a reaction to mockery seems quite natural. However, Christianity is not about “easiness” and conformity with human nature. Instead of cursing the offender we should bless him, we shouldn’t hate but love.
As Righteous John writes, that kind of respond response (offence and irritation) reveals pride which one holds in their heart. The only way to handle it is to strive for attaining humility which may bring you nearer to God.
In Luke 6:22 we read ”Blessed are you when men hate you, And when they exclude you, And revile you, and cast out your name as evil, For the Son of Man’s sake”.
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Сообщение отредактировал readeralexey - Вторник, 30.04.2024, 18:40 |
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| sasavasl15 | Дата: Пятница, 26.04.2024, 18:02 | Сообщение # 8 |
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| I agree with this quote. Here we are talking about how to properly treat defamation and attacks on a person in a Christian way. I think Christians need to learn not to react to bullying and slander with anger, but instead see an opportunity for self-improvement. When we feel upset about slander, it indicates the presence of pride, which needs to be healed and banished by suffering external humiliation.
The most important thing in such situations is not to get annoyed by ridicule and not hold a grudge against those who hate you and slander you, but to love them as your doctors, whom God has sent to you for your teaching humility. Therefore, the next step is to pray for them.
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| sensualpie111 | Дата: Пятница, 26.04.2024, 19:37 | Сообщение # 9 |
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| This quote by Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt may seem illogical to people who are far from Orthodoxy, but I agree with this statement. If you are very angry at slander, it means that you are very dependent on public opinion. It is important for you what others think of you, it is important to be a good, exemplary person in the eyes of society, which is a manifestation of pride. But it is worth remembering that before God we are like an open book, He knows everything about our deeds, intentions and thoughts. Besides, if you are a good person, then those around you are unlikely to believe the slander.
I, too, sometimes get upset when I encounter slander, but I try not to worry about it and remember to be humble.
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