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| readeralexey | Дата: Понедельник, 11.09.2023, 16:23 | Сообщение # 1 |
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| 1 And Adam knew Eve his wife; and she conceived, and bare Cain, and said, I have gotten a man from the LORD.
2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the LORD.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. And Cain was very wroth, and his countenance fell.
6 And the LORD said unto Cain, Why art thou wroth? and why is thy countenance fallen?
7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.
8 And Cain talked with Abel his brother: and it came to pass, when they were in the field, that Cain rose up against Abel his brother, and slew him.
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Suggested questions:
Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived, only after they had fallen and left paradise. Does this mean they were not supposed to live as man and wife and have children before the fall? Support your view.
Comment upon Eve's comment upon the birth of Cain "I have gotten a man from the LORD".
Comment upon the meaning of the names of Cain and Abel.
Comment upon the respective occupations of Cain and Abel. Do they have a symbolic meaning?
Just as we hear about conception and birth for the first time only after the Fall, so do we hear about "an offering unto the Lord", i.e. sacrifice offered to God, only outside the paradise. Why do you think that is so?
Why do you think "the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering, but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect"?
Why do you think Cain was so upset that God rejected his offering?
Why did God address to Cain some questions? What do His words in verse 7 mean?
What were the motives of Cain in slaying his brother?
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| alekssander-com29 | Дата: Пятница, 22.12.2023, 20:49 | Сообщение # 2 |
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| Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived, only after they had fallen and left paradise. Does this mean they were not supposed to live as man and wife and have children before the fall? Support your view.
At first sight, it may seem that the process of bearing children and such opportunity didn`t exist during the period when Adam and Eve lived in paradise, but if it was so, how could they fulfill the commandment to multiply? So logically speaking, this opportunity must have existed, but as theologians suggest, the time of Adam and Eve being in Eden was quite short, and they were more focused on communion with God.
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Why do you think "the LORD had respect unto Abel and to his offering, but unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect"?
The acceptance or rejection of offerings could be linked to the heart and intention behind the sacrifice. Abel's offering, coming from the firstlings of his flock and the fat thereof, may have been offered with a sincere and obedient heart. In contrast, Cain's offering might have lacked the same level of sincerity or might not have been in accordance with God's instructions. Here is an interesting thing about the version of the Bible for children which I used to read in my youth. In this text it`s stated that Abel offered to God the best animals of his flocks, while Cain`s sacrifice consisted of products of not really high quality.
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| marie05052001 | Дата: Понедельник, 20.05.2024, 16:44 | Сообщение # 3 |
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| Comment upon Eve's comment upon the birth of Cain "I have gotten a man from the LORD".
According to popular theory, the name of Cain derives from the verb “kana” (to get). That’s why Adam and Eve gave this name to a child, gotten from the Lord.
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Сообщение отредактировал marie05052001 - Понедельник, 20.05.2024, 16:47 |
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| dawa2311 | Дата: Четверг, 23.05.2024, 17:41 | Сообщение # 4 |
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| Why did God address to Cain some questions? What do His words in verse 7 mean?
I suppose God addresses some questions to Cain because He wanted Cain to repent. The words in verse 7 mean that every sin provides temptation but every person has a free will not to follow the sin and to rule over it.
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| tsumskaa30 | Дата: Пятница, 24.05.2024, 11:18 | Сообщение # 5 |
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| Why did God address to Cain some questions? What do His words in verse 7 mean?
It is curious indeed why God addressed to Cain questions. It would be logical if the Lord talked to righteous Abel but we know that God came to save sinners rather than the righteous, and that’s why He addresses Cain. The Lord wants to correct the actions of Cain, whose offering was not accepted because he did it with no good intention. God appeals to Cain so that he may admit that he did something wrong, that brought no benefit to him. The Lord wants to explain that Cain has a wrong understanding of the relationships between him and God. The Lord says that “sin lieth at the door” of his heart, of his mind. It’s still only a sinful thought and people can rule over it with the help of prayer and fasting. Thus, God did everything to prevent the further Cain’s sin but the man didn’t want to heed this advice and fell into sin.
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| katyadorniak | Дата: Воскресенье, 02.06.2024, 21:50 | Сообщение # 6 |
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| Comment upon Eve's comment upon the birth of Cain "I have gotten a man from the LORD".
Eve had just gone through the first childbirth in history and believed that she was suffering not in vain. She believed that the very first born person on Earth would be their salvation, their key back to Eden. This is why she claimed that she had gotten a man from the Lord. When she bitterly realized that this wasn't the case, she named her second child Abel to emphasize her disappointment.
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| sodrozdova | Дата: Суббота, 30.11.2024, 19:18 | Сообщение # 7 |
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| Comment upon Eve's comment upon the birth of Cain "I have gotten a man from the LORD".
I believe that Eve was happy when God blessed her and her husband with a son. This meant that they could continue their lineage and finally be redeemed by the Lord. I also believe that having a boy was a blessing, as people from the Old Testament had been waiting for the Messiah to come.
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| lisaswan001 | Дата: Воскресенье, 01.12.2024, 16:46 | Сообщение # 8 |
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| What were the motives of Cain in slaying his brother?
In my opinion, Cain's murder of Abel was the result of a complex combination of factors. God preferred Abel's offering, which made Cain jealous. This resentment probably turned into rage, a desire to get rid of the person who had made him feel humiliated. The contrasting offerings may show that Cain felt that God preferred Abel. This made Cain feel worthless. Finally, the act could show that Cain wanted to take over from Abel, even though Abel was his brother. I believe he was completely blinded by his envy and resentment to commit such a sin. In conclusion, I would like to say that all Christians should take this story as a terrible lesson, to remember what uncontrolled passions which we do not fight against, can lead to.
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Comment upon the meaning of the names of Cain and Abel.
Cain means "to acquire," "to get," or "to possess." This shows that Cain was focused on material things, unlike Abel who was more spiritual. Cain's desire to possess led him to commit the serious sin of murdering his own brother.
The name Abel means "breath," "vapor," or "vanity." I am not sure about the meaning, but in my opinion, it suggests that earthly life is short and worldly pursuits are fleeting. Which is very much in line with the fate of Abel himself, who died at an early age at the hand of his brother.
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Сообщение отредактировал lisaswan001 - Четверг, 05.12.2024, 23:43 |
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| readeralexey | Дата: Среда, 04.12.2024, 14:19 | Сообщение # 9 |
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| Цитата lisaswan001 (  ) Cain means "to acquire," "to get," or "to possess." This shows that Cain was focused on material things
The meaning of the name is explained by Eve herself. Also, some people think Eve believed Cain to be the Messiah.
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| lisaswan001 | Дата: Среда, 04.12.2024, 18:00 | Сообщение # 10 |
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| Цитата readeralexey ( ) The meaning of the name is explained by Eve herself. Also, some people think Eve believed Cain to be the Messiah.
I did not know that, thank you for the information.
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