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Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt
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| readeralexey | Дата: Воскресенье, 27.10.2024, 00:40 | Сообщение # 1 |
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| That which is around me or upon me does not constitute myself; even my flesh, with which I am clothed, and of which I consist, as a portion of my earthly being, does not constitute my real self.
Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt
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| dawa2311 | Дата: Воскресенье, 27.10.2024, 19:04 | Сообщение # 2 |
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| That which is around me or upon me does not constitute myself;even my flesh, with which I am clothed and of which I consist , as a portion of my earthly being, does not consitute my real self. This is the phrase which was said by saint John of Kronshtadt. I partly agree with this point of view and I would like to express mine.
On the one hand, Our soul is more important than our body because when we will pass away and go to the Kindom of God we'll not have bodies any more. We will have only souls. We won't have our jobs, hobbies, highplaces etc.
There will be only our real self. Only our real self will stand before God. Our bodies are temporal but our souls are eternal.
However, it doesn't mean that we shouldn't take care about our body. If we don't take care about our body it also a kind of a sign or disrespect to God. There is even a survice devoted to body. "We find love, this caring, this reverent attitude towards the body in Orthodoxy; and this is reflected in an amazing way in the funeral service. We surround this body with love and attention; this body is the center of the funeral service for the deceased; not only the soul, but also the body. And indeed, if you think about it: there is nothing in human experience, not only earthly, but also heavenly, that would not reach us through our body." (Metropolitan Antony of Sourozh)
In conclusion, I should say that we have to take care about our soul and body these both things are important. The only difference is that the body can be left but the soul can not.
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| tsumskaa30 | Дата: Понедельник, 28.10.2024, 16:46 | Сообщение # 3 |
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| It is evident that it is our soul that is the centre of our spiritual life. Human soul is immortal, it is absolutely unique. Even if our bodies seem to be beautiful, pleasant to the eye and well-tended, our soul may be filled with iniquity. All our sins come from the soul as Christ said: “For out of the heart proceed evil thoughts, murders, adulteries, fornications, thefts, false witness, blasphemies: These are the things which defile a man: but to eat with unwashen hands defileth not a man” (Mth. 15:19-20). Thus, our soul is accountable for all the actions, it will be judged and, hopefully, saved.
In contrast, many images in hymnography depict bodies as something mortal, temporal and defiled. However, we should remember that both our soul and our body will rise from the death when Christ comes in the end. Our bodies were also created by the Lord and we shouldn’t think of it as something negative. Of course, they don’t reflect the fullness of our real selves, but they are a significant part of our personality.
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| abalakinan27 | Дата: Понедельник, 11.11.2024, 20:06 | Сообщение # 4 |
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| I really appreciate thoughts of Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt. I would like to bear mind this idea as a reminder that I am what I produce not physical and outer stuff. Soul is more deeper, more meaningful than body bit unfortunately we are all prone to forget it. That's why we, as Christians, should take care more of our soul rather than our appearance:
18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” (Mark 7:18-23)
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| abalakinan27 | Дата: Понедельник, 11.11.2024, 20:09 | Сообщение # 5 |
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| I really appreciate thoughts of Righteous John, Wonderworker of Kronstadt. I would like to bear mind this idea as a reminder that I am what I produce not physical and outer stuff. Soul is more deeper, more meaningful than body bit unfortunately we are all prone to forget it. That's why we, as Christians, should take care more of our soul rather than our appearance:
18 “Are you so dull?” he asked. “Don’t you see that nothing that enters a person from the outside can defile them? 19 For it doesn’t go into their heart but into their stomach, and then out of the body.” (In saying this, Jesus declared all foods clean.)
20 He went on: “What comes out of a person is what defiles them. 21 For it is from within, out of a person’s heart, that evil thoughts come—sexual immorality, theft, murder, 22 adultery, greed, malice, deceit, lewdness, envy, slander, arrogance and folly. 23 All these evils come from inside and defile a person.” (Mark 7:18-23)
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