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Genesis 25, 19-34
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| readeralexey | Дата: Суббота, 30.11.2024, 16:02 | Сообщение # 1 |
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| 19 And these are the generations of Isaac, Abraham's son: Abraham begat Isaac:
20 And Isaac was forty years old when he took Rebekah to wife, the daughter of Bethuel the Syrian of Padanaram, the sister to Laban [-ei-] the Syrian.
21 And Isaac intreated the LORD for his wife, because she was barren: and the LORD was intreated of him, and Rebekah his wife conceived.
22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.
23 And the LORD said unto her, Two nations are in thy womb, and two manner of people shall be separated from thy bowels; and the one people shall be stronger than the other people; and the elder shall serve the younger.
24 And when her days to be delivered were fulfilled, behold, there were twins in her womb.
25 And the first came out red, all over like an hairy garment; and they called his name Esau ['i:so:].
26 And after that came his brother out, and his hand took hold on Esau's heel; and his name was called Jacob: and Isaac was threescore years old when she bare them.
27 And the boys grew: and Esau was a cunning hunter, a man of the field; and Jacob was a plain man, dwelling in tents.
28 And Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison: but Rebekah loved Jacob.
29 And Jacob sod pottage: and Esau came from the field, and he was faint:
30 And Esau said to Jacob, Feed me, I pray thee, with that same red pottage; for I am faint: therefore was his name called Edom.
31 And Jacob said, Sell me this day thy birthright.
32 And Esau said, Behold, I am at the point to die: and what profit shall this birthright do to me?
33 And Jacob said, Swear to me this day; and he sware unto him: and he sold his birthright unto Jacob.
34 Then Jacob gave Esau bread and pottage of lentiles; and he did eat and drink, and rose up, and went his way: thus Esau despised his birthright.
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| sodrozdova | Дата: Воскресенье, 01.12.2024, 15:02 | Сообщение # 2 |
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| I would like to comment on this part on this extract:
28 And Isaac loved Esau, because he did eat of his venison: but Rebekah loved Jacob.
Why should Rebekah love Jacob more? Since he wasn't a hunter, I can assume that he was calmer than Esau. That's why I think Rebekah loved Jacob: he was a plain man and he was next to her more often. Woman's nature is to love their children.
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Сообщение отредактировал sodrozdova - Пятница, 06.12.2024, 14:58 |
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| lolosipovanika | Дата: Воскресенье, 01.12.2024, 18:58 | Сообщение # 3 |
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| The interesting point is that Esau despised his birthright not because he was hungry, but because he was disdainful and doesn't recognize what his birthright actually means. Also, I think that even if he did recognize it, God's blessing meant nothing to him, because he gave his blessing away for some pottage of lentils, which sounds incomprehensible.
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| lisaswan001 | Дата: Воскресенье, 01.12.2024, 21:51 | Сообщение # 4 |
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| 25:22 And the children struggled together within her; and she said, If it be so, why am I thus? And she went to enquire of the LORD.
There are many different ways to interpret this verse. Metropolitan Philaret, based on various biblical translations, sees here an expression of some fear on the part of Rebekah for her life.
A.P. Lopukhin finds it convenient and consistent with the context to find here another, higher meaning - namely the desire of the mother to know the fate of her offspring, which is now given to her by God, after so many years of barrenness. She wants to know what is the Divine Providence concerning her children.
Rebekah is then given a revelation - the elder is promised great power and outward authority, and yet he is ultimately subordinated to the younger. And later history justified this prophecy: though Esau's house was indeed stronger and more populous than Jacob's when he returned from Haran (Genesis 32:11), and Esau's posterity had earlier received elders and kings, yet in time David subdued the Idumeans (2 Samuel 8:14; 3 Samuel 11:1), and Joram and Amaziah even punished them severely for their attempt to free themselves (4 Samuel 8:16-23, 14:7).
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Сообщение отредактировал lisaswan001 - Воскресенье, 01.12.2024, 21:52 |
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| veronikachernykh15 | Дата: Понедельник, 02.12.2024, 13:15 | Сообщение # 5 |
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| In these lines, I was struck by the way the world of Isaac and Rebekah was divided by the birth of their children. From the beginning, even while Rebekah's sons were still in her womb, this conflict became evident. Parents, who are often seen as noble, show self-centered love for their children by favoring one over the other. The conflict of brothers here is not just about Esau's rejection of God's blessing, but also about Jacob's refusal to accept his role as the second son.
This difference between the two brothers is striking, and there are many parallels to be drawn with the story of Esau and Jacob from the Bible. Like the twins from Steinbeck's "East of Eden".
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Сообщение отредактировал veronikachernykh15 - Четверг, 05.12.2024, 23:22 |
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